Do you have gut problems and also any form of acne? On today’s show we are talking all about rosacea vs seborrheic dermatitis plus many other gut-skin conditions (and what to do about it all)!

I have shared my own journey with perioral dermatitis many times.

Each time I do, the amount of women who message me their own story is astounding. But it’s always more than PD (perioral dermatitis). There are many other skin conditions with similar symptoms, GI issues being one.

So I want to dig more into the topic.

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Rosacea vs Seborrheic Dermatitis (+ other gut-skin issues): Podcast Episode 48

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  2. Beautycounter
  3. Mad Hippie (I get it through Grove Collaborative HERE)
  4. Primally Pure (Use my code “AGUSTYGIRL10′ at checkout to save 10% off your entire FIRST purchase.)
  5. Lori on Instagram HERE
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  7. Lori’s website HERE
  8. The Beauty of Dirty Skin (Dr. Whitney Bowe)
  9. What is Leaky Gut?
  10. Small Changes
  11. Liver Cleanse
  12. Chronic Skin Issues and the Gut Connection (Episode 31 with Jennifer Fugo)

“It’s not just skincare; what is really going on?” – Lori

Don’t Miss These Thoughts

  1. Who is Lori Ward?
  2. Why do so many people with gut issues have skin problems and vice-versa?
  3. Digging in more on common chronic conditions. For each, we’ll expand more upon the specific condition and then also more on specific gut problems that typically co-exist….
  4. Rosacea
  5. Seborrheic dermatitis
  6. Perioral dermatitis
  7. Eczema
  8. Acne vulgaris
  9. Psoriasis
  10. Any others of notable mention?
  11. Where does Lori start when someone goes to her with an acne concern?
  12. Foods that are healing for both acne and gut problems.
  13. What is epigenetic hair scanning, and how does Lori use it in her practice?

More on Rosacea

Do you have a dominant red face? It could be Rosacea.

Rosacea is a common skin condition that appears as red skin, blushing and flushing of the face.

Lori mentions that, in addition to the facial color change, symptoms of rosacea may include visible blood vessels and puss-filled bumps.

Rosacea breaks down into these four types

  1. Erythematotelangiectatic rosacea
  2. Papulopustular rosacea
  3. Phymatous rosacea
  4. Ocular rosacea

Depending on the type, the symptoms might look different.

According to the American Academy of Dermatology, here are the common clues (they say “clues” not causes, as they don’t have an actual cause):

  1. Runs in families.
  2. Immune system plays a role.
  3. H. Pylori is common in those with Rosacea.
  4. A mite that lives on everyone’s skin, demodex, may play a role.
  5. Cathelicidin, a protein that normally protects the skin from infection, may cause the redness and swelling.

And according to Lori, here are 3 common triggers and causes she typically finds in those with Rosacea:

  1. Fungal infection
  2. Parasites
  3. Leaky Gut

When it comes to the treatment of rosacea, treatment options will always depend on who you work with.

Lori’s approach is definitely an anti-inflammatory diet immediately to quell the inflammatory response.

Other ways include:

  1. Sun protection
  2. Managing personal triggers
  3. Using appropriate skincare methods
  4. Laser and light-based treatments
  5. Creams and topical steroids (caution on these because they do not come without adverse effects)

More on Seborrheic Dermatitis

Unlike Rosacea, which mainly affects the face – inflammation of the skin, Seborrheic Dermatitis affects different areas of the body – namely the scalp. However, the upper back and nose can also be highly affected.

According to the National Eczema Organization,

An inflammatory reaction to excess Malassezia yeast, an organism that normally lives on the skin’s surface, is the likely cause of seborrheic dermatitis. 

Lori says that when she dials it in deep with her clients, the root cause is always the same.

Common triggers of Seborrhoeic Dermatitis (according to the National Eczema Organization) include:

  • stress
  • hormonal changes or illness
  • harsh detergents, solvents, chemicals and soaps
  • cold, dry weather
  • some medications, including psoralen, interferon and lithium

Triggers vs Causes

Remember not too long ago when I read from Day 5 from A Gutsy Girl’s Bible: a 21-day approach to healing the gut?

The topic was: Diagnosis, Root Causes, and Triggers.

They are not the same, and understanding the differences between all three is very important on your healing journey. Of course, the context for the book and this conversation was surrounding the gut, but the same applies for any and all parts of the body, including skin.

Listen in to revisit the conversation.

These are some things which are triggers (not causes) of skin issues; acne, rosacea, etc.:

  1. dry skin
  2. oily skin
  3. sensitive skin
  4. greasy scales
  5. general disturbances to any areas of the skin
  6. spicy foods
  7. warm water (or cold water)
  8. change of seasons
  9. stress of any type

Causes, like triggers, are also plentiful.

And the only way to truly know the cause is by testing.

Finding health care providers who will understand that usually skin issues like these are not just surface-deep.

Topical antibiotics, while they can and do work, are not the final answer. Your underlying cause is not a deficiency in whatever topical antibiotic you’re prescribed.

Inflammatory Skin Disorders

Getting a correct diagnosis is important when it comes to medical conditions of the skin.

While it’s tempting to treat only the affected area (I know because I tried that for years with my PD), you’ll only prolong the issue, turning mild cases into a higher risk for something worse.

It’s also important to remember that, while you’re not always likely to find it from a medical journal, gut issues are not only just possible causes but almost always part of the root cause.

I fought that idea for years.

When it came to my PD, as soon as the SIBO cleared, it also went away for good.

Clear skin is possible, but rarely can it exist without a strong microbiome.

More from A Gutsy Girl

Want to learn even more about the gut and ways to heal it?

Learn all the secrets via my signature book, A Gutsy Girl’s Bible: a 21-day approach to healing the gut. Grab your copy on Amazon HERE.

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  4. Free resource: The Master Gutsy Spreadsheet
  5. Rated-G Email Club

Wrap Up

Time to wrap this up. As always, a huge goal for this show is to connect with even more people. Feel free to send an email to our team at We want to hear questions, comments, show ideas, etc.

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Lori Ward’s Bio

Lori Ward, a Licensed Esthetician, Skincare Formulator and Integrative Health Practitioner, is empowering teens and adults who’ve been failed by conventional medicine to beat chronic acne and sneaky underlying gut challenges.

She specializes in Acne and Gut health and founded and formulated her own skincare line specifically for people struggling with chronic skin problems, while using Integrative, Nutritional and Ayurvedic lifestyle changes to heal internally. 

Frustrated with her own children’s Acutane journey, Lori’s story began when she joined her daughter in Esthetics school at age 42 and soon became fascinated at the connection between skin, gut and the brain.

For many who suffer from skin conditions, root causes are often silenced and ignored by traditional methods – which could be harming more than helping. Her approach is very different from the typical Estheticians path of working with chronic skin conditions! 

If you liked this episode on Rosacea vs Seborrheic Dermatitis (+ other gut-skin issues), you might also enjoy:

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